show 1 reply . Classic editor History Comments Share. Template:Zalama/doc. Unless you saw something that I didn't, then, no, this isn't the case. Zalama created Super Shenron and the Super Dragon Balls, which were then used by the Namekians to create Poruga and, in turn, Shenron and the Earth dragon balls were based on the Namekian balls. This is the first place after r/whowouldwin that I have ever seen Suggsverse referenced. zalama vs zeno. (Yeah we all know Zeno is the most powerful, c:) What do you guys think? 2. In Year 41 on the Divine Calendar, Zalama created the Super Dragon Balls. October 31, 2020. Along the way, he makes powerful allies and even befriends former enemies such as Piccolo and Vegeta. Their main purpose – as the name implies – the destruction of life in a Universe in order for new life in the Universe – created by the Gods of creation, the Kais and especially the Kaishin – to sprout. That means, if my Theory is correct, that Zeno is the Universal equivalent of the GoDs. That means Zalama must be powerful and high-ranking enough to travel between U6 and U7, and presumably every other Universe. - Nafylicious Author Muh Nur Anafy. Kaioshin have exceptional powers, especially powers of creation. Also, the Grand Priest is basically the Universal version of the Angels, thus his attendee must be logically the the Universal GoD. أقرأ عن Zalama قصصأو انظر Zalama Dbs [2020] و على Zalama Vs Zeno. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Others 4 Discussions Super Shenron(スーパーシェンロン,Sūpā Shenron) is the magical and gigantic dragon who comes forth when theSuper Dragon Ballsare gathered. Poor Goku just wants to get stronger and stronger but he ain't even a fly. Another theory, is that it's also entirely possible that the Grand Priest is an avatar or agent of Zalama and is trying to bring back all the Universes that were destroyed so Zalama can be brought back. Zalama Vs Zeno. After all, he created the Super Dragon Balls and Super Shenron, who seems to outshine even the Angels, which are some of the most powerful beings in the Multiverse. Everybody else, including the GoDs need the help from the Angels in order to travel to another Universe or Zenos Palace. Zeno can completely obliterate an entire reality without any visible degree of visible exertion and appears to be aware of much around him. Thing is, Future Zeno blew up all universes in Trunks’ timeline. 15 zeno (dragon ball super) We hope that Goku will be in a happy, playful mood for this battle, as that might make the difference in him living a few minutes longer than he would otherwise. The Present Zeno looks to the ground, wondering why Son Goku would say such things. He made them to be the size of planets, about 37,196 kilometers in circumference. Thus, Future Zalama would have been killed as well, and by proxy, Future Zeno would have committed essentially suicide. This whole "he blew up all the universes" thing needs to go away. Goku pressed the button from within future Universe 7, Zeno appeared in Universe 7, and blew it up. He created the phrase to s… level 2 The Zeno's ask. After all, neither Gowasu, nor Shin (or their GoDs) died after they traveled to the the Future. Commanding the deepest respect from Beerus, Zeno is the most powerful being in the Dragon Ball mythos to date. This would make so much sense and would be such a perfect twist in line with the previous few arcs. There's also the fact that Grand Priest is the strongest in the universe (besides Zeno) and the number 1 of the top 5 strongest in the multiverse so he's probably above Zalama too (assuming Zalama is a fighter). @blazeking22: This comment answers your question from this thread https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/dbz-wank-vs-naruto-wank-vs-bleach-wank-2095884/#js-message-13 LOL. Also, the Tournament in the U6 Saga took place somewhere on a "planet" between U6 and U7. At the very least he hasn’t shown any affinity to create anything. What if Zeno was a member of a family that each had their own multiverse, and Zeno's father is The Supreme Zeno King. 2 months ago finalbeta "What is your wish? Zeno and Zarama have their multiverse, that multiverse is part of an ultraverse with more Angels and GoDs, that ultraverse is part of a gigaverse with their own Angels and GoDs, and so on and so on until we reach the most ridiculous level: a Suggsverse. ?" Perhaps he was within one of the 6 that was destroyed. He exists/lives outside of the Universes. A thread solely based on who you all think are the most powerful characters within the entirety of Dragon Ball itself, all ranked in a list, from whatever number you wish to start from, all the way down to number 1. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, A subreddit for all things Dragon Ball! A kid named Son Goku grows up, trains to be a strong fighter and eventually becomes the protector of the Earth along with his descendants: Gohan and Goten. Heck, the three wolf fighters actually look straight out of Digimon as it is. He wants to stop Zeno from destroying the Universes (including his children), but he simply can't as that would mean his own death, at least kind of. Perhaps Zalama was forced to be sealed away somewhere like the Old Kai and the Z Sword and this is the balance they conceived. Zalama is the God of Dragons who created the Super Dragon Balls. Aliases: Place of birth: planet u1: First appearance: manga chapter 7 (dragon ball super) Alignment: Connections. Zalama being immune to Zen-oh's destruction would make sense. level 1 … Poor Goku just wants to get stronger and stronger but he ain't even a fly. Zamasu (in Japanese: ザマス), alternatively spelled as Zamas in the manga and Dragon Ball Fusions, is the main antagonist of the "Future Trunks" Saga in Dragon Ball Super, and a major antagonist in the Dragon Ball Heroes anime. To add on to it, perhaps Zeno was too destructive and Zalama used the Super Dragon Balls to wish him as an immortal child. From lore Zeno should be above him and everyone else besides future Zeno who he's tied with. EOS GOKU will be OMNIPOTENT. I think that’s the most important part of my theory. Template documentation follows Note: the template above may sometimes be partially or fully invisible. If one dies, the other dies. This would actually make a whole lot of sense. Occupation: dragon god: Base: Teams: No teams added. Creator: Shueisha: Full name: Alter Egos: No alter egos found. Nothing much, apart from destroying a few Universes. It's not logical. Zalama however created the Super Dragon Balls, which are scattered in two Universes. piccolo and vegeta) acted towards Beerus at first. Zarama could have possibly been the King of Everything at one point, and eventually he either grew too old and appointed Zeno as his successor, or was killed off before being able to officially crown Zeno himself before passing on into the the next life. Tier: At least 3-B physically. Zamasu, being a Kaioshin, (and basically sentient space dust at that point) could easily travel between the boundaries of the Universes and affect all the other ones. That means, if Zalama survived Zenos attack, he would have no problem surviving, even if his counterpart lives in another time now. Zeno doesn't even have that. Where does Zalama live? Mind you, if Zeno died it would make the Grand Priest inactive, like the other angels, which means he has to do his bidding in either case. My Theory is, that he and Zeno are in fact the universal (multiversal?) 1. Future Zeno yells. Visit Template:Zalama/doc to edit this documentation. (Unlikely lol). therefore, future Zalama could had been killed as well, and by proxy, destiny Zeno would have committed essentially suicide. Well, i assumed that the Grand Priest was the one creating that thing. Well done, bravo. So who is the Universal Kaioshin? After all, what would happen if Zen-oh destroyed a universe that Zalama happened to be in, without being aware Zalama was there? I doubt a mortal being could learn the Divine language, regardless of the means (wishes from lower level dragons included). Anyway, let me start with the Dragon God Zalama, the creator of the Super Dragon Balls and his connection with Zeno. KEEP READING: Dragon Ball FighterZ Trailer Adds a Legendary Super Saiyan Edit. however, I think if he turned into certainly a normal Kaioshin, he probable could be able to face up to Zenos attacks, as effective as they is probably. Remember, all of the universes are separated from each other. When an omnipotent being like Zeno's says he can "do anything", that basically gave you the answer. But it's anyone's guess as to what will happen. Beerus wished to destroy the roots of the. Remember, all of the universes are separated from each other. @cyberblades22: EOS goku wishes for Zalama power thus becoming omnipotent and stomps all anime characters but only second to Toribot with omnivastance. Buu at least knows how to heal. 3,176 949. Rune King Thor vs Zeno Sama # Zeno Sama Zeno stomps, no diff. https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/dbz-wank-vs-naruto-wank-vs-bleach-wank-2095884/#js-message-13. None of it is something that couldn’t be explained in some other way. So I assume that the same would apply to Zalama. Assuming Super Dragonballs are limited by their creators power, then unless Zalama is more powerful than Zeno (which, seeing as hes yet to make an appearanc, is actually very likely from a storytelling point of view) then probably not. Though, as it stands, we have no confirmation for one thing or another, because they left the timeline shortly after the destruction of U7/The whole future World of Dragon Ball. The dragon god zalamaMUSIC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4JjE5I2kLIhttps://twitter.com/joexwild Thing is, Future Zeno blew up all universes in Trunks’ timeline. For example, GoDs and Kaioshins lives are linked. So, before you read this, I must warn you that pretty much anything I write in this post are just some ideas I have been throwing around in my head for some time. In the English dub, it is said that this divine dragon is Zalama. The super Dragon Balls were created by a being called Zalama, who was a Dragon God. So now we have a future Zalama who creates but no balance. 10earthquakes 1 y 7 mo 29 d . Zalama floats before them. It has to be questioned as to whether Zalama would actually be stronger than Zen-oh in the magical sense as this being had the power to create the super Dragon balls which can make ANY wish … ANY implying that it could supersede anything Zen-oh has done. Daishinkan vs Zalama would be nice to see. That's one way to make an avatar . However, I think if he was indeed a Universal Kaioshin, he probably would be able to withstand Zenos attacks, as powerful as they might be. Update Zalama lebih kuat dari Zeno dan masih hidup di Universe 7??? Anyway, that’s about it, just a small pet theory I had, since we know that Zeno isn’t actually as all-powerful as they made him out at first, with the whole not actually existing outside of the different timelines and stuff. I think that feat alone makes him an equal to Zeno. [1]. That’s not really something a neutral god would do, unless they had some other god to balance this destruction. Dragon Ball - General This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. That means all Universes exist in the same physical space. Who's more powerful? Edit: And thinking about how all the gods react to Zeno, just as the mortals (at least the ones in the know i.e. @LordTracer imagine if Zeno was that Zalama guy, you know the one responsible for creating the Super Dragon Balls. Rune King Thor vs Zeno Sama # Zeno Sama @10quakes I agree, don't 'lol' facts. Dragomer. So far, we know that only very few people can travel outside their Universe of birth: The Angels, the Kaioshins and Zeno (presumably). super shenron vs zeno. I mean Zeno is a kid, so who knows! Zeno is the GoD of all Universes, Zalama his counterpart. 10earthquakes 1 y 7 mo 29 d . ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Dragon Ball Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. The God of Dragons designed them to be the size of planets, 37,196 kilometers. versions of the Kaioshins and Gods of Destruction respectively. Gods of Destruction are always attended by their assigned Angels. Zeno is so far removed from dimensions, nobody can get into his place without permission. "What do you mean, ?!" Reminds me of that Rick and Morty episode where they kept jumping into the microverse just to fix Rick's car battery. Zeno and Zarama have their multiverse, that multiverse is part of an ultraverse with more Angels and GoDs, that ultraverse is part of a gigaverse with their own Angels and GoDs, and so on and so on until we reach the most ridiculous level: a Suggsverse. Characters who cannot die of natural causes. Now, I admit, this Theory isn’t without holes. It's canon that Zeno rules above all. This is now my head-canon until proven otherwise. Posted by: No Comments I personally say Super Shenron has more power. Frieza also presumes that the Super Shenron could … This means that she's achieved a feat that yields above the Angels, Zeno's Guards (including Zeno himself), and Zalama since they seem restricted to the will of the author. Zalama formed the Super Dragon Balls in the forty-first year of the Divine Calendar. Also, we know that this connection exists even if someone travels into another timeline. But another discrepancy comes from the fact that Zeno is also able to track fights without the use of Godpads, ex. (How does this work?) Give me toriyamas phone number and i'll get right to it ;P. In theory, yes he would be. I totally agree. ZALAMA IS COMING. Nov 24, 2020 #1,586 I don't really get how Zeno's dimensional plurality could affect his rating, Godzilla has infinite version of himself but he still has a 2-A version. That would also play into all those "the Grand Priest is evil" Theories. Beerus pales once again 'Lord Zeno might destroy us.' If he appears inside of one universe, there's no reason to suspect that he's going to have an affect on the other universes. I wish for the Universes you destroyed to be brought back!" Zalama really has 0 zero feats besides us knowing he made the super dragon balls and super shenron who can grant wishes without limits and even reverse the effects of universal erasure from Zeno, tho one could argue that Zeno didn't permanently erase them since he predicted the winner of the TOP would wish them back and he's also erased universal Zamasu who got complete immortality from super shenron. Pada anime Dragon Ball Super episode 31, Bulma pergi ke luar angkasa bersama Jaco menemui Zuno Sama untuk menanyakan tentang Super Dragon Ball. Zeno was able to watch Vegeta and Jiren duke it down even during the later parts of the fight, you don't see Zeno using the Godpad anymore to watch fights happen. Or maybe he managed to dodge the attack by teleporting somewhere the attack wouldn’t reach him. The funny thing is that this chain could literally go on forever. But that means Goku took the "Supreme" GoD out of that timeline. discord.gg/dbz, Press J to jump to the feed. Zalama. Unless no one knows Zalama which makes some sense. He kind of has the mindset of Buu; he's bored and wants to play but gets incredibly destructive if upset. Zalama vs Zeno Sama. The same goes for Zeno, who has the Grand Priest, the most powerful of all Angels by his side. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Zeno blew up Universe 7 in Trunks' timeline. In Year 42, Zalama created a refraction technique that allowed the stars om the Super Dragon Balls to look at you from every angle. Future Zen-oh survived all of the universes in Future Trunks' timeline being destroyed. Zeno is so far removed from dimensions, nobody can get into his place without permission. Rune King Thor vs Zeno Sama # Shin stated that Zeno can't be destroyed, no matter what. If I remember correctly, in the episode where the Grand Priest was introduced, Whis told Goku that he was considered the 3rd strongest being in existence. Let me elaborate: First of all, what makes a God of Destruction? But yeah, this is actually a pretty solid theory. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. As you might guess, I think Zalama fits that position perfectly, at least out of all the characters we know so far. Archon (アルコン), also known as Evil Omni-King Archon (悪オムニキングアルコン) is the ultimate and powerful fusion is beyond of all powerful race that his strength is unlimited and beyond of life was fusion with a Dragon God Zalama along with Demigra, Black Pharaoh Beerus, Lord Erion and two other God-like deity as well. Origin. Published April 02, 2018. 1. Super Powers No Super Powers connected to Zalama. Vegeta vs Jiren. Now what has Zeno really been doing in Super? I think there is no doubt that Zalama must be powerful. Every Universe is contained within a "ball", and all of these balls are ordered like this. Rune King Thor vs Zeno Sama # Zeno Sama Ok. soratoumiga 1 y 7 mo 29 d . I just assume that all fictional universes exist in their own spaces and, at some point, Toei will start running out of ideas and decide that the Dragon Ball universes need to interact with Devilman or Sailor Moon or Digimon or something. All Zeno really wants to do is hang out and have fun, maybe play a board game or something. 2-C via granting wishes. Mind-blown. I was thinking of this the other day. A year later, he patented the technology that made star marks on Super Dragon Balls look the same from every angle. Goku sighs, "Please don't get mad, Zeno's. That's very arguable. 2. Zalama created a nigh omnipotent being, who is capable of granting any wish aka zero limits. Super Shenron is a pure yellow color with a gold tone on his body, has bright crimson eyes, large bat wings instead of the feathery ones around the species he was designed from, coincidently has no legs, and spikes around his tail. He and the Z-Warriors fight evil, powerful beings such as Frieza, Cell, Majin Buu and others in order to protect the Earth and even the universe at large. For Dragon Ball: Xenoverse 2 on the PlayStation 4, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Super Shenron vs Zeno". He is incomprehensibly large in size, shown to be many times more colossal than the multiple amount of galaxies between Universes 6 and 7; this makes him without question the largest Eternal Dragon … Issue is, future Zeno blew up all universes in Trunks’ timeline. A neutral God would do, unless they had some other God to balance this Destruction message! 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